Spurs Banter Archive February 04 2013

 

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04 Feb 2013 23:01:59
When I said loan. I meant free transfer

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07 Feb 2013 10:06:12
sorry when you said loan. I had only name in ma mind.
adebeyaor. always loan.

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04 Feb 2013 23:01:19
Saha, Kris Boyd, John Carew and Amir Zaki all free agents. possible emergency loans?

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Getting desperate are we, I remember just a week ago Hooper wasn't good enough now we'd take anyone lol

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Keep the faith!
b/s

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Yes we are. our one and only senior striker just got an ankle injury. Would you risk a month's worth of results on Kane?

Our wingers can't Bale us out of every game like against Brom. sorry for the pun

Royal Yid

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No I wouldn't want to risk our chances on Kane but tbh it was more of a joke than anything. I mean had we signed Saha before the window closed Levy would've got crucified. Now he's a viable option. It just made me chuckle

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04 Feb 2013 14:03:36
So, as expected a lot of 'LEVY OUT' rants going on!

Levy started his role in Feb 2001. The 10 league finishes before that (starting at 91-92 season) were, 15th, 8th, 15th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 14th, 11th, 10th, 12th!
Our finishes since 2001-02 are 9th, 10th, 14th, 9th, 5th, 5th, 11th, 8th, 4th, 5th & 4th.

We currently sit 4th one point off third.

But still people aren't happy. I guess every club has them!

It's a shame that there is only a minority of us who reguarly visit this site that actually think Levy is excellent for Spurs and that we are moving in the right direction with him at the helm.

I remember Villa fans demonstrating and wanting Doug Ellis out - I also remember there excitement when Randy Lerner bought them out. That's going well for them isn't it?

To all you negative, fickle Spurs fans - please cheer up and enjoy what we have. Should the negativity feed from the stands to the players then we might as well kiss CL qualification goodbye.
1 striker, 2 strikers or no strikers, we need to SUPPORT our club and get behind them.

I remember saying similar at the start of the season and getting slaughtered by a few of you - but then you all went a bit quiet again! But now you're back - I'm all for sharing opinions and respect any ones so long as it's backed with a bit of intelligence. Levy out rants are in my mind unintelligent, all the evidence points to someone doing a very good job, so why want him out?

I don't want to get into a debate about strikers and passed transfer windows, it was a risk starting the season with only two strikers and we currently sit 4th - so in Levy's & Villas-Boas's mind a risk worth taking. Nothing changed this transfer window.

Sorry about the long rant, but the inane posts regarding Levy really wind me up, especially when you look at how some other clubs are run!

Kieran

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Completely agree with Kieran.

What levy has done for the club is great! And runs us better than most if not all of our rivals.

Its frustrating we did not get our target but unlike chelsea, city liverpool etc he will not be held over a barrell on price and will only pay what he beluieves is acceptable.

How many of you would go into a shop and pay double what something is worth just because the shop is closing in 2 minutes. you wouldnt. I wanted a striker too but unfortunately it didn't happen.

We can still get 4th and ade will have something to prove playing up there alone!

NorthernSpur

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Well said COYS

Jimbo

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Well said Kieran.
I've also been slating these fickle fans, think they know better. I'm glad to see there's others like me who keep faith in our team unlike these other "fans". I'd be interested to hear who these other "fans" want incharge? My guess is some billionaire who wants to use our club as his latest toy. Not for me, I think clubs lose there identity and fans lose the passion. So keep up the good work Levy, the real fans are behind you.
COYS
Dan D

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Couldn't agree more Kieran and I am pleased he never spent silly money on Damiao and I don't think Damiao really wants to come to Spurs, if you want to be critical of him when the big names went in the summer VDV, Modric he should have bought a striker then, even if it was a young player who was loaned to another club for the first part of the season - let's just hope we can hold on to top 4 or the questions will be asked again about Levy backing/not backing managers in the transfer windows if only we had a Dzeko or Llorente

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Right behind ya on this!

B's a yod

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Kieran, a lot of what you say is true but it also depends on what you want for your club! Not all of us want £20 mill strikers as we know that's not always possible! None of us want our beloved team to go to the wall like some others, but what some of us would like is to have a chairman who thinks about the club and its supporters as well as his pocket! He doesn't have to find thousands of pounds a year to watch Spurs, his seat is guaranteed, as is his job where ever we finish in the table. For some reason he thinks he is above talking and explaining his actions and why he likes to piss off the other clubs with his transfer dealing! Yes we are gradually improving, but to get up the next step you have to invest, buy or loan, but you don't wait till the last couple of days and then run around like a headless chicken. I for one can understand someone trying to get the best deal for the club, you have to, but to be as arrogant and pig headed as he is, its not needed!
Davo

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I totally agree and I hope he completes the project he started and I think with avb he can

coys

derbyshire dave

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I totally agree with this, I even put a bet on for spurs to win at WBA and they paid me back in kind.
Levy will not put the club in debt just to please fans, if we did get a 20 million pound striker and he turned out not to be good in the prem what would the fans be saying then?

Spurs 81

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They all will be saying. "At least we tried"

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I doubt it.
they'd more than likely be ripping the 20 mil misfit to pieces on here, blaming levy and his team for wasting money.
thje striker situation will be addressed in the summer, I have no doubt about that.
please remember avb is here for the long term and the club have a plan for developing the club over that period, spending sensible money to improve the squad whilst increasing its worth, hence we buy young players with potential to improve and there4 increase in value.
all this we need a 20 mil superstar signing to ensure c/l etc is nonsense. 20 mil guarantees diddly squat, except a massive dip in club finances.
i agree it would have been prudent to sign a striker in the window, but we didn't so we march on with what we got. it seems to be working so far.
b/s

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You say that the striker situation will be addressed in the summer, have you got inside info? Everybody said it would be addressed this January, and last summer, and the summer before etc etc! Admit it, no one has a clue and if we don't qualify for CL, they won't want to come anyway! Levy is to blame if this happens, and I for one hopes this doesn't happen
Davo

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04 Feb 2013 11:15:43
It worries me that so many transfer deals are done in a muck sweat at the very end of the transfer window, but I am not going to jump on Levy for not spending big this January. I simply don't know what was really happpening behind the scenes.

We all love to do 'back of the envelope' calculations that show Levy has a massive war chest to spend on whoever is our 'flavour of the month'. We count up the money we got for the players we sold and what we are saving on their wages, but quietly forget the players we bought and their wages. The truth is that our annual accounts never show huge profits and never show a falling wage bill. There is no massive cash reserve: instead there is a persistent debt of £50 to £60m.

We also like to spend money Spurs hasn't actually got yet. For example, if we had bought a £20m striker in January that outlay might have immediately been recouped by one good run in the Champions League next year. But even if the new striker had made an immediate impact, we still might not qualify for the Champions League, so how would we pay for him then? And what if he turned out to be another Bent or Pavlyuchenko?

None of this means we cannot, or should not, make a big purchase. It only means that it has to be the right player at the right price.

It is easy to list players that have been good value for other clubs and ask why we didn't buy them (Suarez, Ba, Michu, Cisse, etc. ) but what about all the expensive flops we didn't buy either? Even big reputations and big transfer fees carry no guarantees.

Man United paid £29m for a teenage Wayne Rooney and never regretted it, but they also paid £27m for Veron and did.

Similarly, Chelsea paid £30m for the highly-experienced Shevchenko and just got a bench warmer. It has been very much the same with £50m Torres.

City may be happy with their massive investment in Aguero, but what about Robinho, Balotelli, Nasri or Maicon?

Real Madrid may think £80m Ronaldo was a bargain, but what about £50m Kaka?

Barcelona has done some good deals, but Ibrahimovich and David Villa are not among them.

If Tottenham had been seriously linked with any of these players we would all have been shouting at Levy to stop haggling and just do the deal at the asking price. We would all have been horribly wrong.

There are a handful of 'money no object' clubs that can just shrug off these sorts of disasters, but they would cripple us. Every new player is a risk, but there have to be limits to the risks we can take. For example, Damiao may be an acceptable risk at £17m, but not at any price.

I regret we were not able to land the right striker in January, but if that was not possible, I would rather that we bought nobody. Now let's qualify for the Champions League anyway.
KM

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04 Feb 2013 12:58:48
diamo is a beast at 22 mill he is a steal.
same as suarez. whom we missed on the price.
suarez will now worth nearly 50 mill. {Ed008's Note - Damiao is not worth it unproven you can find strikers just as good as him cheaper and proven.

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All this negativity seems to rub off with fans. It's not your money don't worry. Levy needs to spend or f8ck off. Stevie Wonder can see we need a top class striker. It's not difficult to spot a class striker. (Ba £7m. Llorente? ) If 36,000 fans can see it & Levy & the board can't, then we have big problems. Champions league I don't think so

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Agree with the original poster.

Levy is not a man who takes risks. He has learnt from past mistakes buying players out of "reputation", the likes of Bent, Bentley etc.

Remember. Levy is the mean who bought Carrick for peanuts then sold onto United for massive profit. Who bought Berbatov for around £10m and sold for over £30m.

88

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All this talk of Damiao, I'm a spurs fan living in São Paulo and see him play week in week out. Truthfully I don't think he's all that. I think the Brazilian league is very different from the premier league. If Damiao is average in a lower quality league then why would he be a hit in the EPL?

I like most of us think we need a striker, but don't think for a minute that Damiao is the answer - I'm an glad we didn't get him, too bigger risk

SP Spur

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Negative, fickle? are you for real

the paying public have a right to know why he ain't gone and got what we've needed for 3 yrs

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I agree 100% with sp spur. we did try and not just on the last day but I think we would be better going for something a little more tried and tested, even if it costs a couple of quid. not an oldie like villa (who is good) but someone 26/27 ish costs money, but is proven in our or a similar league. has freund got any contacts

derbyshire dave

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It is of course possible that Daimao wasn't our first choice for this window hence the seemingly last minute activity because negotiations on our first choice came undone.

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04 Feb 2013 08:06:00
Well, well, well, its happened. As Spurs fans I can summarise from the comments that everyone was very worried about no striker coming in, as was I. The main worry being what if Defoe suddenly got injured! If the club was genuine about wanting Leandro then they should have put in a bid earlier, allowing time to consider upping it, or looking elsewhere, so I can only assume it was a smokescreen to cover up the fact they didn't want to buy anyone. Its bitterly dissappointing, but it is also just as true that spending 20+mil on a striker doesn't gaurentee we will be top 4 does it. Like him or loathe him Levy is a buisnessman and the club is run on a sound basis, unlike chelski or man city where they could almost liquidate if their tycoons vanished tomorrow.
So we now have to play with the hand we have been dealt, and if we actually look at the situation, Defoe's injury may actually benefit us. let's face it, the last 2 months he has been fruitless and needing a rest, all his career he has scored in patches, when he is hot he is very hot etc, and now Togo are out Ade should be brought back immediately and will be deployed on his own up top, where he was at his best last year, Dempsey surely will be on the bench with Holtby in, as the early signs with him are good. Now its a case of getting the most out of what we have (Adebeyor especially) and getting behind what we have from now till the end of the season.
Mike

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Agreed, we all know Ade is an ego driven player and wants it to be the Adebayor show, so now he's got his chance to be the main man, let's just hope he puts in a shift to the end of the season.
KMB

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