Spurs Banter Archive July 31 2013

31 Jul 2013 23:03:37
Just watched our game against the Dons, really NOT impressed, we really seem to have a rubbish rear guard IMO. Carroll, Townsend, Livermore. Jokes!

As for the Bale debacle, time will tell. I personally think he is irreplaceable. The closest player to him from a Real point of view is a cross between Jese Rodrigez or Angel di Maria and neither would come to us. (players they might include in a deal that is).

I also had the biggest laugh of the year hearing some muppet linking us with Luis Suarez. The chances of Spurs paying over £30m for a player let alone the £50m pool want is absolutely barking!

I put my money where my mouth is today and placed a monkey on Bale staying! I know it's to me anyway a lot of money to Lose but I actually believe DL will hold onto Bale for 1 more season! Wife not happy about it but its my birthday money and to me it is this simple. Real (big debt) Madrid still owe us money for Mod Rat so how can they afford to pay us for bale especially for the minimum reported £80m cash no players included?

Yes yes it will be in installments but they still owe us from the Mod Rat deal so IMO they need to include a player such as Angel di Maria and also sell another big name! Cue F. Coentreao. Both of which could smash our wage structure so to me is a no go and hence IMO the deal is a no go this window. Fingers crossed as I will make me a fortune if he stays.

Either way however it plays out. COYS!

What do you think eds? All? {Ed008's Note - I've got the feeling Bale will stay for 1 more season I think all this reports in the papers/tv are rubbish stirring it up imo.

Totally agree ed. the media has gone crazy and I personally haven't seen any proof Bale will leave. {Ed008's Note - The thing is how papers make money is their storys so by running this Bale story their making money I'm not sure if a club can take action against them for false storys same with sky sports news "sky sources" load of rubbish just to keep you watching and get their view rate up..

31 Jul 2013 22:24:47
IMO I say bale needs to be sold this week, the longer it's left, the more I fear it's going to be done on deadline day leaving us with no one and no time to replace. I would take £50/60m plus coentroa (spelling) and modrat (even though I don't like him, but he is a class player). With the cash, I would spend on Suarez, and with the addition of soldado too, that is a much stronger line up than if bale stayed with us. Levy needs to shape up, and get things done fast! Some of you may disagree, but with these additions, that squad is title challenging material

Thfcmatt

That would make a good squad but tight arse will bank most of the money so don't get your hopes up! We need Bale to stay, even for one more year!

Don't forget we have already spend £50m and that's without the sale of bale. With funds from him (if he is sold) baldini and avb will push for a few more signings. And with levy doing business relitively early this window, is this the season levy has realised he needs to invest to progress? Or am I just living in hope.

Thfcmatt

31 Jul 2013 21:59:58
Bale isn't going anywhere. its just all the papers and tv shows trying to get readers/viewers for more money for them.

Both AVB and Paulinho have been reassured bale isn't going anywhere.

IMO I reckon bale won't go. Soldado will sign. and so will a couple of centre backs both young/fringe of first team. However I think we will stick with BAE and Rose at LB

Cheers

RORS

Tv coverage is getting nearly as bad as Marca.
What are they playing at?

31 Jul 2013 21:36:04
What, caulker sold, gutted he was a quality player and loads of potential at only 21

Disagree mate, not good enough

31 Jul 2013 19:59:59
Seems the deal for the romainian defender is off, apparently the owner in prison called it off as we wouldn't wait for him to play in the champions league qualifier on Aug 6th and they have gotten angry and cancelled the deal.

With Caulker now sold that is another problem

Marc

Lol only to us. down to 3 CB's. one still hasn't played a game since injury and another is out for the first couple of games. Looks like we will be living up 3-4-3 at the moment.

Ffs marc.
U couldn't make it up
Only us. it seems even prison is a factor in our transfer activities.
Mr g

The deal is back on now.

31 Jul 2013 19:28:28
Hi Eds. I'm a Liverpool fan and on that page quite often, but i'm amazed Spurs have sold Caulker! He's 21 and pushing for a regular place in the England squad so selling him seems insane.

31 Jul 2013 19:06:03
Soldado, Chiriches and Halilovic all set to sign.

31 Jul 2013 18:55:52
Anyone noticed that bale has been replaced with Defoe on the bt sport advert?
They must seem to think he's going to leave! I for one think that the club will benefit whatever bale decides to do. If he stays it is only a good thing, if he leaves, £85m isn't bad either haha

Thfcmatt

31 Jul 2013 17:34:05
Afternoon lads

is that Gareth bale today whilst at the training ground approached avb and reiterated his Desire to leave.

Now I am not a spurs fan but I believe you have one of the best players in the world and use fully deserve a world record fee, I just hope use are still battling for champions league where you belong

31 Jul 2013 17:49:45
Caulker apparently having medical at Cardiff. Sad news, I thought he had a good future.

31 Jul 2013 18:04:19
Anyone else a little disappointed to see Caulker going? Would much rather have seen Dawson go and have Kaboul, Vertonghen, Caulker and Chiriches.
I think he will become a great CB, but game time will do him good.

31 Jul 2013 16:51:25
Can anyone help me please, a few sites I habe been on recently just to read have suddenly started playing some sort of sports news audio and I don't think I clicked on anything. Is this normal or is it that my phone is playing up? Thanks in qdvance.

31 Jul 2013 15:31:21
Right, let's get real (excuse the pun). Madrid clearly mean business but do they really mean to go upwards of £100m? If so we have little choice but to accept it. However, it might as well be £20m if a big chunk isn't reinvested in players. A new stadium will take money and time and strain the team budget regardless so, we must be as strong as possible now to have any chance of staying top 5.
£80-85m and Modric is a deal. Say what you like about him leaving and a lack of goals but that boy is a great player, touch, control, passing and links everything up. He is better than Dembele at the moment. Having them both along with Paulinho and Sandro is brilliant, Holtby to progress hopefully. We need Soldado and say Ljajic or Remy, Chadli, Lennon and Sig are decent. Hopefully we've signed Chiriches from Romania and that could be; Modric, Chadli, Ljajic/Remy, Soldado, Paulinho, Chiriches + £17-20m in exchange for Bale. If he's got to go then that's the deal to soften the blow I guess. IF the ridiculous bid claims are true.
Simmo

Modric is a complete no goer and wouldn't touch Remy with a barge pole

I'm trying to be semi-realistic. I would love Bernard, Dzeko and Eriksen and we'd have the cash but even if Levy would spend it, they'd now be inflated prices and likely wouldn't come!
Simmo

31 Jul 2013 13:36:00
Hi all, I'm not a spurs fan but was just curious of your opinions on the whole Bale thing, you've been offered anywhere from 85-105mil for him, depending which paper you believe, do you think that knocking back that kind of money for a single player is madness? Or do you need to keep him at all costs? The way I see it, you either keep him and he plays a huge part in getting you to the CL, worth around 40mil, or you sell up and get that money straight away, it must surely boil down to money after all surely? As much as I think you've got some very good players and i'm a massive fan of AVB, I can't see you winning the league anytime soon, so surely it's only really worth champions league money to keep him? I'm a NUFC fan btw and I see some similarities to when we sold carrol, didn't want to see him go at the time but the offer we got was just so far beyond his worth it would've been madness not to sell. Again I was just curious of your opinions on the whole thing :) pd {Ed008's Note - I honestly don't believe a cash offer of that much has been made unless it has players offered in the deal If 85m bid was made I'd accept it and move on no player can be worth that price imo.

If it was 85mil I wouldn't mind accepting it but only if we got assurances that it would be spend on the team and the not just put into the bank

I agree, with almost everything you've said, although the aim is to get a continuity in the champions league, and if we crack it, that could be 40+m for a lot of years to come, rather than one payment of however many mil.

I think there has been talks of the transfer to Real but no concrete bid in writing until Marca have done all there unsettling of Bale and Real believe they can get there man.

I feel we need to keep him, and if we get Soldado and keep Bale, the team is ready. (and IMO I have never seen a better Spurs team).

Although if the monster offer comes in, I feel he's off, and can't complain.

R91

31 Jul 2013 15:02:10
Agree with you both, I'm a cfc fan and browsing this site to see people's thoughts on the matter. If £85m has been bid, then you guys could bring in 3 top quality players for that. Given the lack of activity by Arsenal, 3 quality players added to what you've already got and brought in this summer will see you in the top 4 without a doubt.
Good luck peeps

Dan

Thanks for the reply ed, I don't believe it could be a cash offer, would surely have to be structured over X number of years with various bonuses/incentives etc, but even then it offers Levy and Spurs long term finacial security, surely that's got to be appealing to Levy, too much money to knock back really isn't it. Pd

31 Jul 2013 12:34:46
I don't mean to be rude, but surely Suarez would only join a team in the Champions League.

31 Jul 2013 12:36:31
Now. ! Don't shoot the messenger here. This is a rumour site. :-)

But a work colleague who's friend is Harry Kane has just stated the following.

"Bale doesn't want to leave Spurs just yet" saying he's not ready to move on.

Must be a chingford person as well then as I've heard similar things round this way.

31 Jul 2013 11:41:05
Reports suggesting that if we sell Bale, we may enter the Suarez race.

I DO NOT want that lying, cheating, diving, biting piece of **** anywhere near a Spurs shirt.

Alright Dave, get off the fence about him and make your mind up will ya.

Dom

Agree with that Dave, well said!

Love the sarcasm Dom :)

But seriously, if his history in the Dutch League was anything to go by. surely Liverpool must have seen him as a risky buy?

Yes, he's scored marvellous goals and was without a doubt a good player last season. But no player is bigger than a club. The reputation that Suarez has given himself, and is now installing in Liverpool FC is appalling.

Why would a club want a player who is a proven cheat? He has bought so much drama to Liverpool.

I would hope that Tottenham, and Daniel Levy, would have more sense and would have the integrity and morality to stay well away from him. I was surprised when I heard Arsenal were interested in him. A player like Suarez needs to either completely change his attitude (which I doubt will happen) or he can sod off and mope in the European Leagues.

Either way, he is an embarrassment to the beautiful game and he is setting the wrong example to young and upcoming players. I think THAT is worth thinking about more than how much a player is worth and how many goals he scores.

31 Jul 2013 02:34:20
When can are new singings play there first match eds? {Ed008's Note - As soon as AVB deems them fit enough..

31 Jul 2013 10:34:38
It's an absolute disgrace how RM can bully their way into 'taking' any player they wish. Without fear of repercussion. Using terminology like "it's now or never". So in 12 months, if GB has another cracking season, are they saying they won't want him? I somehow doubt that very much.
If RM are offering him £150k a yr then spurs have to match it, I personally think he will stay for another yr, IF Levy can ignore the ££££'s.
I also feel he has to feel excited about the signings so far & how it all seems to be built around him, the middle 3 are going to be sintilating, hopefully him & Soldado will just bang em in, it's exciting times. I think AVB is quality. I just hope he stays. 1 more year. & then if he leaves so be it. But I hope he joins Barca. After all RM, you did say "now or never"

31 Jul 2013 07:37:56
Really going to bite myself for this and say I think we should sell bale if we get £90m. And look at bringing in Draxler, Soldado, Lars Bender and another striker.

31 Jul 2013 01:00:05
On the gossip page of the tv it says that if Bale is sold then we are going to join the race to sign Suarez. Would you lot take 80+ million and spend 50 million of it on Suarez for Bale? Eds do you know anything about this? Thanks
The Sledgehammer {Ed001's Note - not a thing, sorry.}

If and its a big IF the latest rumours are true modric plus cash sardado and a bid for suarez on the cards I for one would take that bARB

It may be on the gossip page but you obviously are naive as it's The Metro running that story.

Bale isn't for sale.

I think Dzeko for around 20m would be more likely than 50m for Suarez.

The Soldado bit yes Modric no, he is a good player but we would lose a 20+ goals midfielder for a guy who at best scored 4 a season when he was us and to be fair I don't think he would want to come back we will need a goal scoring replacement to go along with Soldado (if we sign him).

Also anyone else annoyed that the papers are completely writing us off if we sell bale, if we sign soldado plus we have up to 85m to find a replacement/s I think we can give it a real go next season and lastly isn't it ironic how over the last month the papers are moaning that the prem clubs are not signing any star players but are all saying bale needs to leave.

Yeah because Suarez will join us. Also do we want that disgrace of a player anywhere near our club?

Suarez wants to join a CL team. He will not join Tottenham. If he wanted to stay at a team who is challenging for top 4 this season with hopes of getting in then he'd stay at Liverpool.

I read a report that Man U were told modric isn't for sale because they want him to stay and make bales move easier as there good friends, don't know how true that is but could be a stumbling block