Spurs Banter Archive April 30 2013

 

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30 Apr 2013 21:48:17
Just watched the Madrid game. And realised how much we have missed modric driving force from midfield. 30 odd million player never got replaced. The boy just has pure energy. Last time we qualified for cl tight wad did not splash out so what make people think the will again. Benteke would probably cost 20mil. 7-11 is levy bracket
Mr g

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'Driving force from midfield'. Dembele?

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Dembele is a very good player, but not of the same type. He should be playing a more advanced role where his dribbling skills and pace that allow him to beat a player can be fully exploited. From such a deep position beating a player means little as there are so many more to go through, but around the edge of the box it could be devastating (see the winner against Lyon as an example).

Furthermore since Sandro got injured he has had to play an even deeper role as Parker is not holding and instead getting even further forward than Dembele is. This has reduced Dembele to a destroyer type, a waste of his skills, and prevents him from being a driving force.

Even so he is not the link-man style player that Modric was. This player type looks for lots of simple but effective passes to keep the tempo high to create gaps in the opposition defence. Close feet dribblers, even ones as good as Dembele, tend to slow the tempo of the game down. Tom Carrol looks like he has the potential in the future to fill this role, and I'm glad that he has been getting some game time, but that doesn't help us now.

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Totally agree, Parker should not be going forward as much as he does, it's detrimental.

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Parker shouldn't even be playing!

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30 Apr 2013 18:09:16
My dream team for next season:


Lloris

Walker Kaboul Vertongen BAINES

Sandro MOUTINHO

DI MARIA Dembele ROBBEN

Bale

Squad: Friedel, MCCARTHY, Naughton, Caulker, Dawson, Fryers, Parker, Livermore, Carroll, Holtby, Sigurdsson, Lennon, Dempsey, Defoe, REMY

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Would be a nice team, but tight arse wouldn't spend that sort of money!
As for the squad, get rid of Dempsey, Livermore, Parker, either not good enough or too old!

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30 Apr 2013 14:40:59
Lescot to spurs
Robben to spurs
Benteke to spurs

Gallas out

I would like Baines to spurs and BAE out but doubt that will happen.

I would also like Isco to spurs.

These are not "info" just transfers I think might happen.

I haven't been on here for a while, does "The Oracle" still post stuff?

Naz

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Stuff that's a lot more believable than what you have just written!

Lily White Warrior

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Why would we want lescott, Naz?
We have much better at the lane

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30 Apr 2013 14:21:29
Wenger to PSG?!
Probably not true as they've been reported as having pre-signed Rooney, Ronaldo, Ashley Cole and everybody else but, if it happened, good or bad for us?
Bit worrying that somebody new will come in and spend even more money down the road. They make out they've not spent anything because they're in profit when actually they've bought loads in 2-3years; Mertesacker £10m, Arteta £10m, Ox £10m, Monreal £10m, Cazorla £15m, Giroud £11m, Gervinho £11m, Podloski £11m, Santos £6m and so it goes on!

If they invest heavily even further then we'll never get above them after two years of gilt edged opportunities to do so.

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30 Apr 2013 07:39:48
Regardless if we get CL which I really don't c I carnt see any big money signings as we all no what DL & ENIC are like. Players I think we def need 2 ship out

Gomes
Friedel
Gallas
BAE
Parker
Livermore
Huddle stone
Dempsey
Bentley
Ade

none of the above are good enough for our squad.

Players I would like to try & c us sign without being ridiculously optimistic.

Baines 15m - 18m
Marin 5-7m ( not giving a chance at chelsea but think would b quality )
Adam Johnson 10m - 12m
Benteke 14 - 16m
Remy 8 - 10m

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Daniel is that you? Adam Johnson seriously?

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The time to sign Benteke or Michu or Berbatov or Lambert or Carrol (loan) or Lukaku (loan) was last August so we could be playing Champions League football next year. Now most of them are unavailable, irrelevant or just much much more expensive.

Remy may be worth a punt as he reputedly has a buy-out value that's reasonable and, in the end QPR got him for far less than the £15-20m we were being quoted when linked with him so many times.

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Original poster, your list of outs includes Huddlestone, Why, I think he has an awful lot of ability, granted he's as fast as a turtle on speed and has the turning circle of a battleship, but he has a fantastic shot and a range of passing that most players could only dream of.

From your list of ins, i'm not sure why or where Marin would fit in or why we would need or want Adam Johnson, Baines would be excellent as would Benteke and I think Remy is well worth a punt, in addition to these I think Lescott would be a good signing as well as cover on the wings some one like Affelay would have been great but not sure who now

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Adam Johnson had a bad season
But under Di Canio he is looking back to his best

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I'd not sell Dempsey, although he'll never be the skill level of the rest of the squad he's our only player that can score a scrappy goal. Against lower league opposition that's the sort of player we need, and if we are genuinely building a squad (not just a team) to mount a campaign that will involve CL as well as a top 4 league finish then we will need this type of player to give the first team players a rest.

Huddlestone is similar to this in my mind (I think we forget how ridiculously good he is at passing), but not so important. That's in part because he has been playing without wingers (Lennon returning to fitness and Bale playing central). Man United can be devastating with Carrick quarterbacking to their wingers, and Italy used Pirlo in the same role to good effect in Euro 2012. If teams want to play compact against us (likely if Bale is central and double marked) then this would be a strong tactic.

All the rest I agree with.


Would be awesome to get Baines, but I don't think there is a chance. I will be surprised if he wasn't playing for Man United next year. Clearly BAE is not the solution to LB, and Naughton is good backup for Walker but either he is not good enough or is not right for the left (look at how he was beaten so easily for Wigan's 2nd goal).

Marin could be a good Modric-style replacement, but I'd rather have Moutinho and also no way will Chelsea sell to us. Johnson I like, and one bad season does not make a player bad. Although he's behind Lennon in my mind we have to realise that Lennon will never go a full season without at least a month off injured and it's crazy that we keep pushing out his cover (GDS last year, Townsend this year). Benteke is looking solid but for that money (or near enough) you can get better I think. Remy I have no interest in - he's good but not that good.

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