Spurs Banter Archive June 18 2011

18 Jun 2011 17:09:16
Gooner fan in peace here.

How do you guys feel about keeping unhappy players that want to leave.

Of course we have fabregas who wants to leave (albeit, in a professional manner) and more recently nasri, who also seems to be holding the club "ramsom" too.

All comments are appreciated on the topic

NW10 Gooner

Ok, an honest question deserves an honest answer (and i do have friends who happen to be Gooners. .unfortunately )
As Ive already said, and using fabregas as an example, its no good keeping players that want to leave, their mind may be on the job but their heart won't be and, IMHO, the good from the great are seperated by the size of their hearts. In respect of ALL clubs, including yours, its sickening to hear that your most coveted players are looking for a way out, however, are not the players we sign doing the same to their clubs and supporters? I suppose its a case of "what comes around, goes around" and for that I, personally, can't have any real arguments. To pick up on another posters comment about selling Modric to city etc, that is ridiculous in my eyes. We make them stronger and us weaker. Ive said it before and I will keep saying it till im blue in the face, he needs to be shifted abroad and we need to have that as a policy, the best players who want to go only go to a European club. Sir Alex has used this policy for years ( im not going into who went, ive said it before and everyone should know anyway) he is damned if he will make his opponents stronger! Ok, so we only get, say £25 million if he is sold abroad instead of £30 million if he goes to the West london scum, so what? What is £5 million pounds in Premiership football nowdays? What will be the cost to us if he helps Chelsea further up the table and us further down and out of ANY european football at the end of the season? A damn sight more than a paltry £5 million!
I think we ned to wake up and realise that, for all the talk of keeping our best, we will lose them if we don't sign a big name AND break our wage structure and pay more.
Super Yid

Honest passionate words from a fan who truly loves his club (even if you are a spurs fan =S)

Respect.

NW10 Gooner

18 Jun 2011 16:19:09
So basically, we have every intention of keeping a player who is now saying that its time for him to move on? Brilliant! Who the f**k are we? The Gooners?
If you want to see what keeping a player who wants to go does to their form, look across the road and see what it did to Fabregas. Last season he was not the player he had been previously. Sure, he gave his all but his heart wasnt in it and it showed. Do we REALLY want that from any of our players?
I think this has more to do with opening the floodgates than retaining your "best player". If he goes, Bale will be next etc, etc. See, all those scumbags that come over to this side, glopping away as they type one fingered, pulling the p*ss out of us, do have a point. If you can't keep hold of one, you won't be able to keep hold of any. Thats the problem Levy needs a BIG name striker and f**king quick if he is to convince us and the players that he is really serious about pushing on.
Its all down to him now, come on Mr L, pull yer fuggin finger out!
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EXACTLY. I just don't understand why Levy doesn't go out and sign us a big name striker to show we mean business next season. Luka's looking to see what happens in the transfer marget before he makes a deffinate decision. Levy go out and sign a bluddy big name striker.
I still believe Luka modric will not be sold.

Azza

Paper talk might not be true the usually seem to lie. A few days ago i read in the sun and Daily mirror that Shearer was the new Cardiff boss apparently he signed a 5 year contract but the day before they had printed the story he haf declined the role. Journalists just make rumors to sell there papers

18 Jun 2011 14:13:36
I told you all before the seasoned finished that Modric would go. You all laughed at me and said "That is one player who is loyal" lol. Don't listen to Arry, you will lose more players who don't want to play in the Europa League.

Bye bye Modric, bye bye Bale, bye bye VDV, bye bye Sandro. You can keep Bently, Pavlechenko, Defoe, Lennon, Gomez etc. . no one wants them.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Pav and Lennon are good also Bale, VDV and Sandro want to stay especially Sandro and VDV by trying to get there mates to join with them and last time i looked you wanted Defoe. just sayin

Erm to the N*bhead who wrote this, first of all out of all the players you mentioned ONE wants to leave.Second of all i doubt Sandro and VDV would try to encourage their mates to join if they were gunna leave and thirdly your saying if Lennon said he wanted to sign for you you would say no?Thought not
YidKid

18 Jun 2011 13:20:18
For those who do not visit the official site, a short statement from Mr Daniel Levy:

"I wish to make it absolutely clear, as I have said previously, that none of our key players will be sold this summer. We are building a team for the future to consistently play at the highest level and retaining quality players is crucial to that.

"In respect of Luka Modric, we are not prepared to sell, at any price, to Chelsea Football Club or any other club.

"We made our stance on this issue abundantly clear in writing to Chelsea. They chose to ignore it and then subsequently made the offer public.

"For the avoidance of any doubt, let me reiterate that we shall not enter into any negotiations whatsoever, with any Club, regarding Luka.

"We now consider this matter closed."

Much Love, AllTheAnswers x x x

So basically, we have every intention of keeping a player who is now saying that its time for him to move on? Brilliant! Who the f**k are we? The Gooners?
If you want to see what keeping a player who wants to go does to their form, look across the road and see what it did to Fabregas. Last season he was not the player he had been previously. Sure, he gave his all but his heart wasnt in it and it showed. Do we REALLY want that from any of our players?
I think this has more to do with opening the floodgates than retaining your "best player". If he goes, Bale will be next etc, etc. See, all those scumbags that come over to this side, glopping away as they type one fingered, pulling the p*ss out of us, do have a point. If you can't keep hold of one, you won't be able to keep hold of any. Thats the problem Levy needs a BIG name striker and f**king quick if he is to convince us and the players that he is really serious about pushing on.
Its all down to him now, come on Mr L, pull yer fuggin finger out!

18 Jun 2011 12:05:21
For those who do not visit the official site, a short statement from Mr Daniel Levy:

"I wish to make it absolutely clear, as I have said previously, that none of our key players will be sold this summer. We are building a team for the future to consistently play at the highest level and retaining quality players is crucial to that.

"In respect of Luka Modric, we are not prepared to sell, at any price, to Chelsea Football Club or any other club.

"We made our stance on this issue abundantly clear in writing to Chelsea. They chose to ignore it and then subsequently made the offer public.

"For the avoidance of any doubt, let me reiterate that we shall not enter into any negotiations whatsoever, with any Club, regarding Luka.

"We now consider this matter closed."

Much Love, AllTheAnswers x x x

18 Jun 2011 10:33:58
Well, this time last year we were expecting Spurs to kick on and sign the strikers that would requalify us for CL this year and signal our ambition.Unfortunatly Levy thought we could get CL football again on the cheap so it didn't happen and now Modric is gonna be off and he can plausibly say its because of a lack of ambition at Spurs. People can slag Luka all they want but the blame for this situation lies squarely with Levy and his failure/unwillingness to get at least 1 top drawer striker 12 months ago. In a way, much as it hurts can't even blame him for wanting the move to be to Chelsea. He wants an ambitious club who challenge for things and his family are very happy in London.Where else is he gonna go ? Looking for a silver lining is hard as Modric leaving won't just leave us weaker on the pitch but will be a big blow to morale. All I will say is this, havent we been here before? When Berb left it was supposed to be the end of the world yet within a couple of seasons we had done what the Berbatov team didn't achieve and qualified for CL. I think we can survive Luka leaving if we can persuade others (Bale and VDV) we have the necessary ambitiona and if we spend the silly transfer fee on a top quality replacement.

I agree with most of that but when berba left spurs did improve but the big factor in that was harry redknapp he took the same side from the bottom of the league to champions league with the same group of players he also made gareth bale from a player who had a record of spurs never winning when he played so imagine what he would have done with berba in your side

Honestly Im a spurs season ticket holder, and valid we didn't sign a striker which we desperately needed. But how can you say Levy didn't do this and that, he has spent a shed load of money on players, and how do you know he didn't bid for strikers? you know him and he told you? Or you broker the deals for spurs? don't make a fool of yourself becuase you don't appreciate its not that easy to just sign a striker or any player for that fact to take us to the next level.

Lspurs1

You're right Lspurs1 mate, Levy did spend a shed load of money on players, but most of these players were crap (which you forgot to mention).

They are

Bently (18 mill)
Bassong (8 mill)
Pavlechenko (14 mill)
Palacios (12 mill)
Defoe (16 mill)
Woodgate (7 mill)
Hutton (9 mill)

Last by no means least, you spent 12 mill on Gomez lol lol lol

Blair Mayne YNWA

@Lspurs1, I think you should read my post more carefully. I said that Levy either failed or wasnt willing to buy a striker last Summer. As for your point that its hard to sign top drawer strikers, true, but ambitious, effective Chairmen make it happen. I never thought I'd say this but look at Villa last window, they desperatly needed a striker and they went out and got one who scored the goals they needed (no, Im not saying we should have re-signed Bent ) secondly, last Summer we were creating a buzz, qualified for the CL and were sitting on a big transfer kitty with CL money to come, if we can't sign a quality striker under those conditions then when the f*ck can we? As for "Im a Spurs season ticket holder" so am I but so what? Are you saying only season ticket holders have valid opinions? And whats the name on your season ticket? D Levy? Dont want to bicker with fellow Spurs fans but just putting things straight

@Blair mayneYNWA i agree with what you are saying but at the time they were hot property re bentley was the player to buy a couple of summers, defoe was banging in goals for pompey, Palacios could of gone to city (supposedley) but apparently we agreed a deal that they could sign bellamy and we got wilson, And the list could go on for all the players. And also Im sure he did try and sign strikers of high quality in jan (supposedly) Llorente, Rossi, Aguero but they didn't come off. In any case who would you have liked us to sign/sign this summer?

Lspurs1

In defence of levy, he did try to bring in a big name striker in jan and offered loads of money to rossi, aguero and forlan but didn't get any of them (remember the only player Harry wanted in jan was phil neville) so we can't blame levy for trying! i think the fault lays with Harry he showed how tacticaly inept he is towards the end of the season and seemed blinded by his love of crouchand deffo ( seems odd that he can drop a striker after hes scored in 1 game, but refuses to drop them when they are not scoring at all!) in reality its the failure of the strikers to do what they are paid for and the ineptitued of redknapp that meant we werent winning easy games when we could quite easily of finished 3rd not 5th and in essence that's what cost us the champs league place and has lead to this mess. Im just hoping levy pulls a massive player out the bag and proves to all of us that he has ambition for the club we support with our hard earned cash! in levy we trust! coys

@Lspurs1

Scott Parker might be nailed on mate, maybe just maybe Charlie Adam. I wouldn't be supprised to see you go for Santa Cruz. Arry has been looking a big strong centre forward for a while and Santa Cruz could be that player. The only obstacle there could be that City won't sell to a rival. As i hope that we can get Adam Johnson but fear that City won't do buisness with us or any of their rivals. And they are the only club on the planet that could make a player of his value and quailty rot in the reserves (ask Bellamy).

Surely Arry should be looking at defenders? You've needed 2 CB's for a while now but Arry persists in buying midfielders. The CB's you should be looking at are players like Tomkins (West Ham). He's young and has a bright future imo, and would be cheap after the Hammers going down.

Blair Mayne YNWA

18 Jun 2011 09:19:36
Same old story guys. . .I think the wage structure needs to be looked at as luka has gone for money, unless we give players what the other top clubs are then we just can't compete. I'd rather him go to chelsea than utd, I would push for drogba in the deal and then go for marin. Gutted. Rufus.

18 Jun 2011 00:29:13
I told y'all so. Bye Bye Modric. 1 down, 2 to go.

Ben