Spurs Banter Archive June 13 2011

13 Jun 2011 22:18:15
I'm just not sure about spending that amount on money on a kid who hasn't played in the prem league and may not settle if he does. If we are looking to buy a quality young striker then sturridge would be my shout. Rufus.

Sturridge is not a team player and is extremely lazy. This leandro guy is a big punt but he has all the attributes to become a top player for spurs. Look how well sandro has turned out. I would definately pursue this guys signature.
leandro and another proven goalscorer is what we need. i'd be happy with leandro and Lavezzi/Rossi/Falcao.

Azza

Why do you spuds think you can attract big name strikers, you are playin on the europa league ffs, get real you are more likely to sign carlton cole

13 Jun 2011 20:02:04
Yeh got to agree that was an excellent post from superyid.
I thought palacios was off to napoli.
I have also heard that levy is not happy to pay for s. parker since w ham want too much. This could explain the rodwell rumours emerging.

Spurs guvnor

Id take Rodwell over Parker anyday, the lad has huge potential AND he can play centre half. . .
Super Yid

13 Jun 2011 17:58:54
I think the Palacios deal looks to be on, he would be a great player for the club. Not too sure about Bassong joining, i doubt Newcastle will want to let go of him.

13 Jun 2011 17:45:54
Ok, bare with me on this one. I think you put too much play on Liverpools "history" in so much that the perception is the clubs past and tradition will automatically attract top class players. Im of an age that remembers the Shankly/Paisley eras and can appreciate the fact that the club does, indeed have a long, lustrious history littered with major successes. The problem with that is that im well into middle age so how relevent is that history to somebody younger? My 25 year old son has no real idea of liverpools past and nor would a young top class player. Its fair to say, considering the belief that Liverpool ( and i don't disagree) is a "Big" club, their successes over the last 20 years have been poor, havent they? It would also be fair to say that our performance over that same period has been even worse BUT not hugely so.To this end, in order to sell ourselves to a big time Charlie, we have to sell ourselves in such a way that makes us more attractive to players than other clubs. We will have to sell them our history, which we do have, our ambition which we do have and, in all probability, a wage structure will have to be broken to demonstrate our ambition to them. Liverpool will actually have to do the same! A Young Brazilian/European will not understand to the same degree as a british player, just how significant Liverpool is on the world stage. The simple fact is, both clubs will have their work cut out attracting top quality players. It certainly helps matters, in terms of who is actualy in charge too. I would guess that Dalgleish will be more of a draw than redknapp because he has been successful both on the pitch and as a manager. It was Henry Ford who said "History is bunk" and, to a degree he was right. History is only relevent if you remember it, take an interest in it or it has directly affected you or the life you live. There is a whole new generation of players out there who will see Liverpools history no differently to the history of, say the great Ajax team of the 70s. ive found myself having to show my kids clips of Cryuff and Maradona just to give them an insite into a history that i remember and to demonstrate to them that Messi isn't the first "great" and won't be the last.
To close, how do we sell ourselves to top draw players? With lots of hard work and lots of money. I would, respectfully suggest that, in the year 2011, Liverpool will have to go down that route too, the world of football has changed, there are different clubs sitting at the top of the pile and liverpool will have to work damn hard to claw its way back to the top of the table. the difference between you and us is that we last sat at that table in the 60s and yourselves far more recently. You have a large hill to climb, we have a mountain. Remember tho, Everest was conquered, nothing is impossible so long as you have the belief, desire, ambition and funding to get you to the top. Dont believe that Liverpool are that much closer to the peak than we are, you are not. both clubs have work to do but both CAN push on. For us, it will depend on who we can keep not who we bring in, for liverpool, its going to be down to money, how much will the new owners chance their arms with by throwing it in? Personally, id give King kenny what he needs, i rate him highly, he will make the difference for you big time. Harry? Im not convinced tbh, less so now than ever. Time will tell.

Excellent post whoever you are

Twas me, Super yid.
Keep the faith, people!

Who else could it be?

This guy is the only one bothered to post about the club. The rest of you guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

Plastic fans.

13 Jun 2011 17:26:32
Harry keeping targets close to his chest, cause man city get wind of anything they can blow us out of the water bidding.news is parker on way not very happy with this but maybe as squad player.we r sniffing around shawcross from stoke but not wanting to pay large, keane and jenas could be offered in this deal.harrys marquee signing will be benzema from madrid in 28 million deal.coys simon.

13 Jun 2011 12:04:06
13 Jun 2011 08:07:11
Okay. Where do I start?
Right. Firstly, I don't purport to be eloquent and insightful and some bright spark.
Two, although I ended up insulting/mocking you lot, that wasn't the aim.
Winding you up or creating aggro was certainly last of my intentions.
Being a passionate footy fan, I guess I got carried away and couldn't resist having a pop at you.
Apologies.
We are all football fans, aren't we? And debate is part and parcel of the game.
When I asked you what your unique selling proposition was, I was being sincere.
I often hear you lot talk about Aguero, Hulk, Rossi, very good players indeed who'll have top, top clubs to pick from.
So I just wanted to find out from you what is it that you have which would make them choose you over those clubs.
Really, fellas, it's a genuine question. Forget what was said between us in previous posts and let's start on a clean slate.
I would really, really want to know what advantage you believe your club has over, let's say us and Arsenal.
There's a bloke who did say that what will you a chance at getting the cream of the crop is if the top and/or more prestigious clubs don't go after them.
Although that's not cast-iron a point, fair enough to the lad.
But I'm sure that's not the only card you think might swing it in your favour.
So come on, I wanna hear it.
No insults, no pops.
Just a civilised discussion between fans who are very passionate about clubs and expect great things for the future.
Let's get on with it.
Jack Masters

Ok, bare with me on this one. I think you put too much play on Liverpools "history" in so much that the perception is the clubs past and tradition will automatically attract top class players. Im of an age that remembers the Shankly/Paisley eras and can appreciate the fact that the club does, indeed have a long, lustrious history littered with major successes. The problem with that is that im well into middle age so how relevent is that history to somebody younger? My 25 year old son has no real idea of liverpools past and nor would a young top class player. Its fair to say, considering the belief that Liverpool ( and i don't disagree) is a "Big" club, their successes over the last 20 years have been poor, havent they? It would also be fair to say that our performance over that same period has been even worse BUT not hugely so.To this end, in order to sell ourselves to a big time Charlie, we have to sell ourselves in such a way that makes us more attractive to players than other clubs. We will have to sell them our history, which we do have, our ambition which we do have and, in all probability, a wage structure will have to be broken to demonstrate our ambition to them. Liverpool will actually have to do the same! A Young Brazilian/European will not understand to the same degree as a british player, just how significant Liverpool is on the world stage. The simple fact is, both clubs will have their work cut out attracting top quality players. It certainly helps matters, in terms of who is actualy in charge too. I would guess that Dalgleish will be more of a draw than redknapp because he has been successful both on the pitch and as a manager. It was Henry Ford who said "History is bunk" and, to a degree he was right. History is only relevent if you remember it, take an interest in it or it has directly affected you or the life you live. There is a whole new generation of players out there who will see Liverpools history no differently to the history of, say the great Ajax team of the 70s. ive found myself having to show my kids clips of Cryuff and Maradona just to give them an insite into a history that i remember and to demonstrate to them that Messi isn't the first "great" and won't be the last.
To close, how do we sell ourselves to top draw players? With lots of hard work and lots of money. I would, respectfully suggest that, in the year 2011, Liverpool will have to go down that route too, the world of football has changed, there are different clubs sitting at the top of the pile and liverpool will have to work damn hard to claw its way back to the top of the table. the difference between you and us is that we last sat at that table in the 60s and yourselves far more recently. You have a large hill to climb, we have a mountain. Remember tho, Everest was conquered, nothing is impossible so long as you have the belief, desire, ambition and funding to get you to the top. Dont believe that Liverpool are that much closer to the peak than we are, you are not. both clubs have work to do but both CAN push on. For us, it will depend on who we can keep not who we bring in, for liverpool, its going to be down to money, how much will the new owners chance their arms with by throwing it in? Personally, id give King kenny what he needs, i rate him highly, he will make the difference for you big time. Harry? Im not convinced tbh, less so now than ever. Time will tell.

Excellent post whoever you are

13 Jun 2011 01:10:25
Azza, if i had to pick one it would be rossi. He is very clinical and that is what we need to finish off all those chances we create.
I would be happy to see falcao here too.
Ed, how come when i click on the reply to post bit it doesn't work proper? Is it not compatable to some phones?

Spurs guvnor {Ed003's Note - Should work}