25 Nov 2011 09:32:01
Really £9m pounds for a player that will make the bench! yes hoillet is a good player but he is not worth £9m! i think we should buy a world classs defender and maybe a striker and get rid of pav cos he is awful!
The only role I don’t see him developing for is “advanced playmaker” as he lacks a creative spark to combine with his technical ability. Junior Hoilett could play RM with his pace but he has less technical skill than Lennon and makes about as many tackle as Jenas. Sure he has played 12 games with 3 goals and 3 assists, but even Jason Dozzell looked good once in a while. Last season he contributed a pathetic goals to game ratio with 1 assist all season.
Summarising his all round style I would say he has limited technical skill, Not very creative, no real drive, Poor dribbler, Terrible ball control, physically average, weak in the air, positionally unaware, lacking killer instinct, weak shooting, Work rate is questionable, woeful defensively and not nearly as fast as Lennon.
I would be amazed if Spurs sign another Pienaar level player like Hoillett. The club have moved on, and whilst we need squad players, we certainly don't need really mediocre ones. We have players like Gomes, Bassong, Gallas, Sandro, Huddlestone, Corluka, Pienaar, Krancjar, Livermore, Defoe, Pavlyuchenko and Dos Santos as squad players. Spurs need players like Damiao, Subotic, Hummels, Vucinic, Hazard & Bastos. We should be looking for players like Hazard who are better than Lennon for example, to really challenge in every position. Acquisitions like Pienaar or now Hoilett add no depth or challenge and simple dilute the squad. We saw how amazing the last Blackburn Rovers star was when placed in a team with different ambitions. Bentley was their superstar and now can't even get a game on loan. Blackburn should keep Hoilett and buy Jenas and Bentley and they nay stay up, but the Lillywhites don't need anymore so calked stars from weaker clubs. O'Hara is average but looks great at Wolves, Zamora is average but looks great at Fulham, Bent is average but looks great at Villa, Hutton is average and looks ok at Villa, Malbranque looked a world beater at Sunderland, Crouch is the star at Stoke and Taarabt is laughably world class at QPR. How many examples do we need before we all realise that lower level clubs make average players look amazing. Sure there are some great players that can come from these clubs like Phil Jones or even our very own Scott Parker, but they were consistently man of the match almost every time they played.
Moving away from my personal views, let me confirm that there has been discussion regarding Hoillett. QPR have had exploratory conversations regarding Defoe, and whilst Harry wants to keep him, there is always the possibility of some crazy 18m offer which would be almost impossible to reject at his age. Hoillett was being discussed as a squad addition due to his perceived versatility across midfield and upfront. There is also a belief he can be acquired for 4m-5m.
So in summary I think Bentley and Jenas are better all round players than Hoillett and I would love 9m for either player. I doubt we will sign him but if the fee is low enough, then we may find we have another player to warm the bench.
The Oracle
Blackburn won't sell for less than 16m
If you seriously think any club are going to pay big money for a player with a few months left, then you need a few more tablets from your doctor. What's more Junior Toilet is not even that good, so don't read the nonsense from Blackburn as they try to over sell their impending free agent.
Whilst there is some truth in respect of signing him, I really canning see Levy parting with more than 4m. Hopefully Blackburn will get lucky and Arsenal will buy him for 10m. It seems the Gooners have got used to firing out 10m offers for hellishly average players. When RVP leaves I am sure we will be quacking in our boots when they come to The Olympic Stadium with Gervinho and Hoilett upfront. Perhaps we can play a 1-7-2 formation just so it is fair for them. I think King along could keep them quiet.
Come on Barca, City, Real or Chelsea get the chequebook out for RVP. Give the Arsenal the 35m he is worth so they can sign Samba, Jenas & Hoilett.
The Oracle
16mill wake up mate behave urself!
Oracle u crack me up mate a lot of people slate u on here but i always find your posts interesting compared to the one line rubbish most people on ere come out with
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agree with above. Some of your comments are far fetched, but you still know your facts to back up some opinions. And your hate for Arsenal.... love it!!
Naz
We all hate Arse nil - but i for one hate the continued links with the Olympic stadium more. If it does happen, we will be worse than that lot down the road - at least those nomadic wannabes own their stadium, the same cannot be said if we go there...
Flippit.
Dear Flippit
We now seem to get along well and you always add some value in your replies. I am sorry for confirming what will most definitely happen, and I do understand your desire to keep 'The Lane'.
I personally am absolutely delighted that our new home will be an awesome stadium. What stadium can boast 200m infrastructure rail, road and public transport links? Spurs will have a massive capacity state of the art stadium with brilliant facilities. Supporters could even drive and park as well as travel on superb brand new maximum capacity public transport infrastructure.
Sorry if you want WHL as your home, but the area is hardly the most prestigious place in London. High crime, terrible road links, poor public transport capability and a run down high street. Imagine a Spurs village with state of the art watering holes and food shops. No more 236 man queues for hellish kebabs or foul fish & chips.
Sure Woolwich moved all those years ago to Highbury, but in the last 20 years we have seen Man City, Arsenal, Bolton, Stoke, Sunderland, Middlesborough, Swansea, Cardiff, Brighton, MK Dons, Colchester, Millwall, Coventry, Hull, Leicester, Southampton and Reading all move home. Lately Tottenham, Chelsea, Liverpool and even Man Utd have all discussed building new stadiums.
We are a North London team and I accept that East London seems distant, but that journey is like 5-8 mins by car. With so much to gain materially, the club needs the foundations to build a great club. Cutting corners for the sake of memories would be a mistake in my eyes. When you take you new seat in the members stand and hear the superb acoustic bowl in action with 60000 fans, I am sure You will have a change of heart. If the retractable roof option is included our home games in the snow and bottomless mud will disappear, removing the chances of a poor physical team to steal results.
I respect your views Flippit but think about what we will all gain over the plan of refurbishment. Harringey Council have cocked up the borough in boutant Market conditions, do you think with all the government cut backs you will get much more than an extra bus stop and 3 additional rubbish bins?
I love my club and our history, but feel The Olympic stadium is the way forward.
The Oracle
Dear Oracle,
You raise very many good and true points. And yes it is the way forward BUT will the Olympic stadium ever feel like a home for us? Or just a venue we will play at? It's further than 8 minutes! And it will never really be OUR stadium. It will be the governments stadium that we "borrow" for 2 hours on weekends. The Lane has a lot of history and not only will it be lost and forgotten if we move to the new one but the Lane will be torn down. That is what people are objecting to. Loosing our history and home for a modern day skyrise flat. Olympic stadium will be miles better looking,and cost effective but it will not be home, and will never be ours. This is just my opinion.
Naz
We borrow money from banks to buy houses, but they are very much our homes. We are no talking about hiring the stadium on a temporary basis, the agreement will allow Spurs to total renovate and brand the stadium as it's own. Imagine it as a lease purchase with all the benefits of owning it only at a better price.
There was a survey carried out a few years ago which demonstrated the geographics of our supporters. We all know that so many Londoners have had to move out of London to the home counties like Essex and Kent. So when you call Tottenham home let's not forget that the area is hardly prestigious, and the fans by enlarge don't live near the stadium anymore. I myself live in Essex and the thought of being able to get a train and travel one or two stops to what would be the most prestigious ground in the country and would even be one of the best in the world. I myself am sick of driving to the ground, parking in some private dodgy carpark behind some industrial unit, coming back to find the roof have be slashed and my car robbed, and then sit for 2 hours trying to get back on the M11 in the freezing cold as my window was smashed. Only happened 11 times in my last 15 years of watching games.
I have even tried to come by bus and spent an hour in traffic eventually jumping off and walking the last mile and a half. The tube at Seven Sisters is a marathon away and that is hardly accomodating for the more elderly. Lastly the overground at Silverstreet is terrible, and hardly accommodating for large crowds.
I love the heritage and history, I would love to bulldoze half of the area and build 500m of transportation links, I would love to put something back into the community but in reality that is the governments job and not ours. We need to be realistic when we plan something this big, and ask ourselves if we didn't have the history then what reasons would there be to build it there? Then take all the reasons not to build it there and ask yourself is it worth it? Lastly do we lose our heritage just because we have a new home, are all the teams I listed above in a previous post now nothing? They kept their history which is not something you can erase, and have all the benefits of a world class stadium. I have not seen one single Arsenal fan moan that they wish they were back at Highbury, and that is in a stadium lacking acoustics. Imagine all the good and you will soon get used to loving our new home at Stratford.
The Oracle
Pav's not awful he can score he scored for u against sunderland pav but sell him tho tbh