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16 Apr 2013 20:30:08
The following players are being scouted heavily for us, Diakate, Capoue, Aubameyang, Min (excuse spelling but the one from Hamburg) and Niang of Milan.
Excellent, let's hope none of them cost more than £6-7m and that we don't have to sell Bale to get any of them. Hope they don't mind playing Thursdays and Sundays.
16 Apr 2013 18:26:08
Swansea to bid £5m for Andros Townsend after his good form for QPR
McYid
Andros Townsend is the speed and cover for Bale, and there is little chance he will leave for such a small fee.
Maybe on loan for a further season, but I think any offer would have to break £8m+ to convince Levy to part with him.
21 year old british player who has impressed that much at QPR don't think we wil accept if they do! but never say never
SirBob
Anybody know why we let him go out on loan when we were only two injuries away from being short of pace and attacking options (and we have had three injuries lately). Seems we've been the only top 5 team this season that doesn't think you need a decent squad.
With Bale guaranteed to play if fit, and apparently preferred on the LM, it was deemed Townsend would progress more away from Spurs. I have to say the decision seems correct, as he has improved significantly, albeit leaving Spurs short of width. AVB did have Sigurdson, Holtby, Carroll, Livermore, Huddlestone & Parker to fit into midfield roles outside of the first choices of Sandro, Dembele, Bale, Dempsey and Lennon.
So in hindsight we might have changes our decisions, but at the time it made sense. We will in addition have a vastly improved player at our disposal next season to cover the LM role.
All you've done is mention a bunch of players not fit for purpose with regard to attacking, width or pace; Livermore, Parker, Sandro, Carroll, Huddlestone. Holtby hadn't even started for us, Sigurdsson had hardly played (but admittedly is improving).
We have not had enough numbers or quality for a consistent goal scoring threat with ANY necessary depth at all this season. Look at the goal differences and check the table out along with our injury list and run-in. It was always going up happen.
What you can't do is look back restrospectively and tell me about players misfortunes. If we had the benefit of hindsight it would be a wonderful thing.
Just for the record Holtby has played 13 times 7 in the Premiership, Parker 22 times with 16 in the Premiership, Sandro 27 times with 22 in Premiership, Carroll 11 times with 7 in the Premiership, 18 times with 14 in the Premiership. So hardly the rubbish you refer to them as.
I agree that we lacked width and cover on the wings, but Townsend was not showing enough. Even Dembele was forced to RM on occassion and Townsend simply wouldn't have got a look in. AVB has preferred to pick exprience over youth, and I think he would have played Vertonghen or Walker in midfield than risk players like Townsend.
The truth is we need cover next season and Townsend looks to be coming nicely to the boil.
Look back retrospectively? Ok, so you won't necessarily know that I have been saying all season we are short of cover generally in our squad but I definitely posted in August and January how ridiculous it was and have been a naysayer this season I openly admit. We kept high for longer than I expected. It isn't retrospective to know that Kaboul was injured pre-season as was Parker and to assume that, as always, you will get one or two long-term serious/niggly injuries in every season, you'll get suspensions regularly from middle-end of season, Ade was going to the African nations, we had sold two world class players and bought in some 'maybes' with potential, we had a new manager under the microscope. Most of all, WE ONLY HAD TWO RECOGNISED STRIKERS, one of whom was definitely goinng away for a month as well.
The only positions AVB has been able to rotate are at the back and often enforced to do so. Apart from that we've been one or two knocks away from trouble. Imagine without Bale's brilliant new-year run where we'd be? And look how thin we look for the run in now he and Lennon are struggling.
Not good enough and it's not hindsight, we NEVER had as much cover or fit/ready-made class in the squad as last season i'm afraid and even they bottled being a comfortable 3rd.
I hope we finish 4th, unfortunately I don't believe we will. If we do then Levy has landed a massive gamble and we will all be happy he has, if we don't then we're paying for that yet again behind our arch rivals who have been there for the taking for 2-3years.
It is pessimistic naysayers like you that are the problem at Spurs. When we were losing 0-1 at home to Man City, all I could hear was a divided stadium. There were the naysayers and serial complainers like you, and there were an optimistic supportive hard core contingent. I could hear people shouting profanities at our players, albeit Adebayor wasn't exactly helping matters. I could hear people talking about the lack of transfer activity, the tactical ignorance of our shape and all sorts of other nonsense. Yet all the time it was the 30% hard core optimistic loyal fans who continued to sing and cheer on the team. Then in the 75th minute we scored and these same naysayers were jumping up and down like the 30% had been doing for the previous 74 minutes. Only then did the atmosphere become a united voice of support, and the team responded with a resounding thrashing scoring two further goals.
You see it is not clever trying robe the naysayer of our club. You will defend you actions and say you are the realist, but fools like you think Spurs can have a Bale TWICE in every position. We all know another striker would have been nice, and perhaps cover at LM a d on the wings, but AVB had his 4-2-3-1 idea, and thought two strikers was enough.
I accept the mentality from Levy has been to kill a bear with your bare hands before he buys you a gun, but our league position each year has been impressive. Of course we could spend £75m and challenge for the top, but we have a stadium to sort out and Levy wants gradual sustained growth.
Rangers, Leeds, Portsmouth, Liverpool and Blackburn are examples of buying success. Manchester United are over £300m in debt, Fulham owe £190m+ with over 75% of revenues covering wages. Newcastle have put themselves in a terrible state as have Aston Villa, and QPR are the latest big money spenders.
I am old enough to remember back a few years, it was only a decade ago when we were a sleeping giant like Villa dreaming of Europa League and top 6 finishes. Villa and Spurs both mathematically tettered with relegation, and look where we are now comparatively. We have insignificant debt, which would be wiped out by Champion League qualification. We have funds aside to acquire out stadium dreams, and have a foundation for the future.
You would do well to objectively cover your fears, in a half full rather than half empty manner. If more people like you had been more positive all season, I think we would have already qualified for Top 4 status.
Oracle, I can safely say that is the most sensible thing you have ever posted. You are entitled to your opinion and I do actually agree with you as strange as that sounds but, I have admitted to being a naysayer this season because it has been frustrating that we have (again) let a chance of being more comfortably ahead of rivals for a top 4 (in fact top 3) place slip by. This would have been without having to spend ridiculous money like some of those others have, can and will do so those opportunities are limited.
I will back the team and want them to win more than anybody but, it is difficult to see the same-old thing unravelling, the bitter rivals benefitting from it and us fans on the end of all the jibes and derision yet again for another season at least. You have to admit, we do find the most amazing ways to fold; a striker sent off within 10mintues in the Bernabeau, a goalkeeper who throws the ball in his own net many times, stuffed 5-1 at Wembley last year, stuffed 5-2 twice by you-know-who, long runs without a win at timely points of the season, pathetic penalty-shoot-outs, ex-players rattling goals in against us, ex-goalkeepers flapping three goals into the net to give you-know-who an undeserved win and a finish above us, it goes on and on!
Anyway, I will take issue with a couple of things; I do not think we should have a Bale in every position but we should at least have 3 strikers and it would not have taken £75m. £5m Berbatov, £2m Michu, £6-7 Benteke. As for realism, you have spouted the Leandro deal was done over and over again so taint well-rounded posts like these somewhat.
Fantastic turnaround against City, Lennon will hopefully return and we can have a strong finish but it has taken going out of the Europa League to do it as we would have never coped with another 2-3 games thrown in. Or, are we having another glimmer of hope moment just to have it snatched away in a more painful manner as is often the case?!
Here's hoping the former.
Simmo