Spurs Banter Archive November 21 2012

21 Nov 2012 19:34:05
You got to feel bad for Di Matteo. Its not like he had the luck of managing Chelsea legends like Paul Elliot, Tony Cascarino, Jon Harley, Kerry Dixon, Ken Monkou, Tony Dorigo, David Lee, Craig Burley, Eddie Newton, Andy Myers to name a few, as other managers. He was up against it from the start with that scrapping of the barrell of a squad. He also got unbeleivable bad luck in their Champions league run last season, he didnt stand a chance really at a club with such a great history and tradition.

spurs guvnor

90% of Chelsea fans reading this don't have a clue about any of those players you mentioned!!

You also forget that they where unlucky in last years cup final when a very poor Liverpool team over ran them 2nd half looking for an equaliser.

But yet smacked u 5-1 in the semi! u lot are thick
pinky

How can we be thick Pinky? have you seen your spelling ?!

Much love

Hook line and sinker perky.
You are far too easy.
Chomp chomp.
Why are you bringing up past glories.
Ok you beat us in the semi.
We beat you in the carling cup final.
We beat you 5-1 in the carling cup semi years ago.
We won the cup as a non league team, you didn't, so there.
Boring perky. Very boring.
Rafa Benitez blue and white army ha ha

, oh pinky. The irony.

21 Nov 2012 13:50:45
All the continued criticism of Levy, the manager and the coaches is getting ridiculous.
Comments like "if all the results go wrong for us this weekend we'll be 13th" are a joke - judging on a game by game basis is simply pathetic!
Unfortunately, it's the way all football fans are becoming. I read some posts on here and cringe. Mr G and Davo (I've picked you out, but there are many others), I do not doubt your passion and support for Spurs. Nor do I doubt your intelligence. But your posts are so negative and pessimistic. Is this really what 'supporting' your team is becoming. Your posts do not offer much support.
The club has improved immensely since Levy has got involved and we need a young manager with a long term plan. The two most successful teams of the last 20 years are Arsenal & Man Utd, they also have the longest serving managers, that's not coincidence. We have a manager now that needs time. He has a 5 year plan which the Levy is behind and we need to be the same. There may be a few steps back before there are great leaps forward.
Why the craving for instant success? We've waited 50 years for a title, what's the harm in waiting another 3, 4, 5 or 6 years? Do we really just want to be another Chelsea, no class and constant change of managers in the hunt for global domination! My passion for football is diminishing due the X Factor mentality of most fans - vote yes if someone does well one week, but then no if they perform badly the next. This fickleness is growing and is very evident on our pages and the pages of other clubs too.
Let's SUPPORT our beloved Spurs and put faith in the fact that everyone involved wants what is best for the club.
Kieran

Very well said been feeling the same, some of the so called fans on this site are beginning to depress me

Football fans think that a few bad results = change in management. Another reason clubs like Chelsea are ruining the game.

Well said, totally agree! I'm glad there are at least SOME like-minded people out there!

Adam

Kieran , why should we wait another 3 , or even 4 years for success ? Because we support Spurs ? If your boss kept promising you a wage rise and you never got it , then he said give me a couple more years , would you feel as if you have to wait ? For the last 4 years we have had a team that was almost there , all it needed was that little extra bit of investment and planning , instead of last minute panic buying by Levy the tight arse . Yes , he has done wonders for Spurs in the past , but even he must know that you have to speculate to accummalate. You dont have to break the bank each time you buy , so why can other teams find excellent buys and we have to live on other peoples scouting ? Also , when we find a raw diamond , why is it that tight arse tries to screw the other team to the extent that they dont want to deal with us , and then the raw diamond we found is thrust into the limelight for every one elses view ? I for one was glad when Arry went and we got AVB . I was quite happy to give him the time needed . But , when someone makes the same mistakes , over and over , and doesnt learn from them , then I start to worry . As A supporter for over 45 years , I am very used to not dominating at any time , but that doesnt mean that I should expect us to play second or third fiddle . I have just in the last ten years spent a bloody lot of money following my team , home and away , and yes , when you get screwed by levy and co each season , you get pissed off . Every one knew waht we needed to push on from last season , very little in fact . Instead once again , we watch who every else is trying to buy and end with with 2nd raters , who arent good enough for our team . ie , Siggy , Ade , Dempsey , Bentley , Jenas , etc .
So yes , I will come on this site and have a rant and moan , because apart from money , I have put a lot of time into following my team , and when people in the club make the most basic of mistakes and dont learn from them , I do get bloody annoyed .
That doesnt mean that I wont still support Spurs till the day I die , because I am passionate about them , it just means that aimimg to finish below the top doesnt sit right in my way of living . Aim for the top , always
Davo

Davo, changing the manager will have an adverse effect, just support the team.
Kieran is absolutely spot on, a more recent example is Mancini at Man City.
Team didn't qualify for CL in his first season and the board stuck with him.
Next season, team qualified for CL but didn't mount any title challenge whatsoever.
Following season, they won the league.

Don't take this example literally, but it does show that giving managers time to get players on board with tactics and each other works.

Give the manager and the TEAM time, to adapt and gel. The squad is excellent, and if given the time will do well in the future.

Hass

If only I could agree to this a million times over.No one ever spots the pattern with the give him time cr*p.We need money fast no two ways about it.We'll win nothing with Levy end of.

Hass , I have never said change the manager . I have said that I wish he wouldnt be so pig headed , I wish he didnt make the same stupid mistakes over and over , I wish that he didnt have a stupid loyalty to players that didnt deserve it , and why the f**k does he persist with Gallas , but never change the manager . Levy can go when he wants , because his tight fisted ness holds Spurs back ! He doesnt have to buy the best , but buy decent , stop pissing every other club off with his stupid stunts , and start thinking about our club and not his own pocket !
Davo

Davo, if i didn't get the pay rise I was promised I would leave - but that's business. This is football! I've worked for many companies but I've only ever had one team. What promises can any club make it's supporters? What promises has Levy made you and broken?
You mention that you've got to speculate to accumulate - like Leeds? Portsmouth?
Levy is a shrewd businessman who won't be screwed over. He's proved that he'll splash the cash and has done in the past - unfortunately, it was on the wrong players, so can you blame him for caution now? He has made us a strong force in business and a team who can contend with the big boys in the transfer market, but players won't come to Spurs until we have regular champions league football. I for one do not want Spurs throwing cash at chasing the champions league dream. Success will come and it will come in the steady way that is being planned. Like you I've been a Spurs fan for a long time, 35 years but I've never felt screwed over or that I've ever wasted my money. Yes it can be frustrating and yes everyone is entitled to a rant and a moan now and then, but please - do you really want to be a Man City or a Chelsea. Our success when it comes (and it will) will be so much sweeter because it's evolved and been earned, not bought!! COYS
Kieran

Kieran negative football and result is rewarded by negative comment not claps and a pat on a backs or never mind son maybe next time..FFs we lost 5-1 to the dnt u see that it's wrong or begging mr levy for a striker... With your attitude I guess mid table Tottenham and a trip to wembley every 10-20 years for fills your dream about our club.... Sorry Not me mate
Mr g

Kieran , thats a slight confusion there , you say your wages is business , this is football . In your next sentence you say that Levy has made us a strong force in business . I am sorry but without the supporters who pay lots of money to the team , there wouldnt be a club or a business . I have never expected any promises , but you do expect the club to do its best for the supporters , which means investing in the club . Yes we can compete with the big boys in the transfer market but we dont ! I dont expect us to over pay wages or prices for players either as I said before , but in any sport or business , if you know where you are weak and you want to progress , then you sort out that weak point as Levy did when he dumped Arry . I dont want us to go into serious debt to be winners but We all knew we only needed ONE or TWO DECENT players at the start of this season and we was let down again due to Levy's tight fistedness . He was quite happy to throw millions at Oracles pet project ' the olympic stadium ' in fees , even though there was no need but wont invest in the most important aspect of the team . The problem is he knows that Spurs supporters are one of the most loyal groups you can get , and no matter what dross is served up at the lane , we will turn up week after week , whatever the results . The fans have stood behind the club , now the board etc should show the supporters that they are behind them as well .
Davo

The difference is that Mancini was given the players he wanted to better the squad so that he could win the league, WHAT players will AVB be given! Siggi, Dempsey, who next!

Mr g, I want success as much as you and every Spurs supporter want. But how should we get it. Do you really think that when Levy took charge that he looked at the models of Leeds, Chelsea and Blackburn and thought 'Ah yes, this is how to achieve success' or do you think he looked at Man Utd and saw that as the correct way to progress a club to regular success.
You seem to want money thrown at players and managers changed on a whim. It took Chelsea and Man City a few years after money was thrown at it before either won the league. Blackburn are the only club I can think of where success was bought pretty much overnight - remind me of where they are again? You seem happy to criticise a manager that is bringing a new ethos to the club and who hasn't had a full squad to chose from this season. You continue with your negativity and good luck to you. I'm going to do what a football supporter does and SUPPORT my team.
Kieran

Davo, No confusion on my part. Just because I use the word business twice in separate sentences doesn't mean that these sentences relate to eachother. My point was that whatever happens at work has no influence on the team I support. That fact that Levy has made us a strong business has no relevance to that statement whatsoever! Anyway, I think myself (and several others) will have to agree to disagree in the views of yourself and Mr g. The original point I was making was all about supporting your team. Most of your posts do not do that. Levy is good for Spurs and has proven this. He is patient and I suggest you should be. I've seen criticism of signings in particular Siggy and Dempsey. If they produced the form of last season I don't think there would be any complaints about either of them. They are new players working to a new system. I still don't get it how there is criticism of a manager who has been in charge for 12 league games or a chairman who has got us in a better position than any other in all my years of supporting Spurs. Davo, Mr g and all the others hitting the agree button to their posts - YOU ARE FICKLE!! I bet you were booing at the lane this season!
Kieran

Once again you are wrong . I have never ever booed a Spurs team at the lane or at an away game . Also if you checked you would find that I have never said AVB should be binned . As for Siggy and Dempsey , its very easy to look good when you play with average players . Levy , I have said that he has been good for Spurs in the past , but he is a tight arse , who tries to screw over who ever he deals with . No deal with him is straightforward , ask Ajax and Vert ! Also after watching tonights game , check with the other supporters how many think Dempsey was a good buy !! As per usual , last minute panic buy to shut up the supporters .
One thing to remember though , this is a banter site where club supporters get to air their views , the Levy appreciation site is on the Tottenham web site , go there and click on the square marked tight arse !
Davo

21 Nov 2012 11:38:18
Pinky where are you, look what happens when the luck runs out, and lets face it, it was pure luck then manager gets the sack. Its becoming an annual event Chavski sacking the manager.

But then still win more than u boys! NEXT!!



pinky

Get used to saying 'next' perky.
Revolving door at the chavs managers office.
Benitez???
Next!!!