Spurs Banter Archive July 17 2013

 

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17 Jul 2013 22:59:47
Villa fan in peace here guys,

Spurs I have to agree are on a different level whilst we are going another way building with youth, you guys want 4th place, we want anything above 10th to keep up with the progression.

benteke is a sore point with us, that's why a lot of our frustrations are showing. Not with you guys but with Levy.

benteke will go to you but I will prewarn you early doors.
his record before he came to us was not great, he went on strike before he joined us and that for us should have been a warning sign.

One good season does not mean two good seasons, mark him deep into the middle of the park, rattle him and he loses it (JT -Chelksi)

he would however be awesome for you, but I am afraid guys he has no loyalty and somewhere along the line you guys will be feeling the same as us.

Lerner will get the best price I assure you, get him quick, he will do a good job for one season and get you to 4th, after that he's gone.

Personally I don't want to see him at the Villa no more, you are better off going for someone with pedigree and just not a one season wonder.

let him rot in our reserves on peanuts.

Best of luck for next season guys, I always love the way you guys play the game.

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This Villa fan has it spot on in my opinion!
Simmo

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Total agreement.

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Once more we have been warned over the temperament of a prospective player. Ade v2. 0 I fear, except we didn't get the benefit of the good season.

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17 Jul 2013 22:36:08
With Pappa cissie's problems at Newcastle, what do you guys think about a cheeky little bid?

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17 Jul 2013 22:33:31
Good work levy all your f'in about has cost us villa and now damiao! Looks like benteke is our only option! Brilliant our only likely strike target is a cross between bent and heskey!

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Benteskey

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Lets keep our fingers crossed he signs neither!

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17 Jul 2013 20:34:06
Reading a lot of people's messages on here like mine regarding signings
Creative midfielder and striker.
The club and mainly DL has a lot to answer to.
1. No body comes out and tells us how it is. They shy away and leave us the fans to guess
2. When you fly a player in like moutiniho in and struggle to get him over the line for whatever reason. You are telling us the fans you have the reported 30 mil to spend on ONE player.
3. We have sold our best stars over the years and replaced them with average cheaper players and have hoped they will fill the boots of the stars sold.
4. We have a lot of fans here saying we can't afford certain players or wages. Let me tell you players now are investments and with more and more money in the epl clubs like Swansea are starting to splash 12 mil on a player tells you that. How much is the stadium costing? And how much have we lost out on for not qualifying for the CL.
5. Moving on to my final point. What are our scouts doing?
We reportedly got offered Suarez for 20 now worth 40 then you see bargains like
Mitchu 2m
Ba 7m
Papa 10m
Etc etc.
If the club can't afford the reported cream of the crop stop talking to them and get out and find the bargains.

AND to all you lot out there saying that I'm depressing and negative, are my above point not valid ones

We all the supporters are the main asset to the club weather you pay for sky to watch em or buy merchandise or tickets for the game or just love the club have a right to know what is going on, no?
Mr g

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Dear mr g,
now this is only my opinion, but I assume the reason levi isn't coming out spouting on we wanna sign this, that and so on is to try to keep price and competition to a minimum, moutiniho never "flew in", I don't think he left portugal last summer, considering we've sold our best players and replaced them with crap we've been pretty consistant top 4 or 5 last 4 years, new stadium is gunna cost anywhere between 350 and 500 mill depending on what you read, and on your final point, I would our scouts are doing what there paid for, there is plenty of young tallent in our ranks and I would assume levi didn't want to over spend on a risk like suarez, he's turned out well for pool, but a lot of bad press i'm glad we avoided and he was sold for well over 20 mill anyway.

that said, I don't think your depressing, just anoying, negative and shout a lot of s**t.

coys

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Mr g, for a so called spurs fan, you don't half slate the club, I know gooners with nicer things to say about us!
that's not what the g stands for is it? Goooner?

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Yes mr g, you may have some valid points (some misguided also i. e I believe a certain tv channel did show him walking into Tottenham and it was 'Arry who didn't want Suarez) but as you've proven again all negative points. That's what people go on about when you post. Not because they disagree but because it's NEVER positive. Surely you can see that?

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You are right Mr G. Levy is a cheapskate. It's time he went.
George

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Yep I'm pretty sure it was Arry that didn't believe Suarez would make it in the EPL.

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17 Jul 2013 17:29:55
Why is it that DL refuses to commit and buy a Quality Striker? Our optimism makes us the fans look deluded! Every year we are linked to Quality targets and some are not unreasonable as we can afford them. Players Like Negredo, Soldado, Damiao (O how that name pains me, Oracle did a number on me there!, where is he anyway?) Villa etc.

Not only can we afford their price tags but wages as well. Over the last few years we are roughly £23m in profit. Take the £17M for Paulinho away still leaves £6M in profit over the last 5 years approx.!

So why the HELL on gods green earth have we not gone out and got that coveted STRIKER?

Forget the NDP for a minute but if we had regular CL football we would be able to attract the quality of the players afore mentioned. The reason we don't have CL football is really simple for ALL to see except DL! WE NEED A STRIKER!

A World Class striker will push us to the next level and establish us as not only as potential title contenders but REGULAR CL football!

Not to mention we might even get all the required sponsors to finish the NDP. ����

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Ffs, there is still a month and half of the transfer window left.
I wish people would post this stuff when the window is closed. Then we might all have something to moan about.
I think the heat is getting to some of you lot.
COYS

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Foxspur, as much as i'd like to agree with you, I cant, we need NDP for the long-term, to be able to compete the big boys. I as a spurs fan am happy and proud that we are run as a sustainable, unlike others, and they do seen to be building something good, i'd rather they took their time and got the right people in rather than jump and grab anyone. that being said, everyone including the board i'm sure know what we need, we just need faith and trust they have our clubs interest at heart. bar all the minor niggles and moans I think any proper spurs fan would be hard pushed to find a time when levi and lewis have put there own interests in fornt of the clubs in regards to signings, after all, bar man u, shi**y city and the chavs I think we are one of the biggest spenders.
it will happen, it must happen, we know, they know, so hold out, trust and hope that its not benteke!

COYS

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We are also one of the biggest sellers.

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We do sell a lot too, but it keeps us sustainable, and generally they sall at right time, right price and usuall make profit, bently and jenas excluded! lol

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Coys, agree a bit there but we have wanted this striker for over 3 years now, and everybody knows that including all at Tottenham! After reading David Villas words that he would have signed if spurs hadn't fu***d about for so long, we can see why the worry is there! I don't want Benteke, as sh**y has proved, there is cheaper and better out there!

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I understand davo, but considering we have "needed" a striker for 3 seasons, we haven't done badly! Bit agree if we want to push to the next step we need 1 if not 2 great finishers!

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COYS,

When I meant forget the NDP for a minute, I meant in a financial term. By that I mean that the NDP money is set to one side and we should have X amount just for transfers and wages.

That money for transfers, I would like to see us get that recognised quality striker. I agree that DL and JL have done the club and fans proud so far and we are one of the best run clubs around hence £23M profit over the last 5 seasons on transfers alone.

Minus the 17M for Paulinho (another great buy) we have £6M profit as a guestimate. Surely they can actually spend some club money not player money for a quality striker. When I say club money I mean dip into their pockets first to get what we need then recoup money through selling our own players rather than sell 1st then buy whatever we can afford afterwards.

I also understand that we have a month and a half of the window left but for peace of mind I was and still am hoping we conclude our transfers before the first game kicks off. That way the team has the best possible chance to gel and start of strongly.

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17 Jul 2013 17:11:11
i asked this question below.
Can anyone who watched the swindon game tell me how hall, luongo, and pritchard did?

RY

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17 Jul 2013 17:08:45
I see Ibrahimovic is unhappy at PSG now they've signed Cavani.

Maybe worth a shout, I know he's 31 but he would be class in the premiership. Wages again being one of our biggest problems.

I can't see Levi going for it personally - But for 1 maybe 2 seasons (Thoughts. ?)

On a more positive note:

I know it's all gone quite on the transfer front at the minute, which I think is a good thing, This MUST mean things are going on behind the scenes. (SURELY)
The club know they need 2 strikers, All Fans know it. I'm sure AVB was well aware of this by middle of last season:

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Dream on

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Remember jurgen klinsmann

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I do with great fondness

However ibrahimovic earns 200k a week after tax. So what would we be paying him 400k a week!

No dream on

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How about a cheeky loan deal paying half of his wages

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Ibrahimovic can't earn 200k after tax, they have a 75% tax in france so no way he earns 800k!

Marc

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Have read up and find it out! You will find your right

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17 Jul 2013 16:59:21
Km
Great response to my question
A proper honest spurs supporters opinion
Mr g

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17 Jul 2013 16:58:28
Coys
That all you do is comment on what people write
I see you have nothing to say but just have a go at people who dnt praise levy
Listen we all think differently and all allowed to have an opinion whether u like it or not
Mr g

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Mr g, coys stands for "come on you spurs" and isn't a name as far as i'm aware

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I know what it is but it's who ever is using it as a name
Some people ffs grow up
Mr g

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Edds, how many different people put coys at the end of posts, I do and i'm not the 1 mr g is ranting at? am i?

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17 Jul 2013 16:39:25
It has gone very quiet. anything your end Ed? {Ed002's Note - Expect more on Benteke in the coming days.}

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17 Jul 2013 15:46:46
Kieran
Give me something to cheer about and I will
Ill even to a strip outside the lane.
This time of the season is about trading
Buying/ selling
Lets see what we do.
But a similar patten we go 1 up with bale and draw the game
We all know where we went wrong and what we need
Will the club supply it?
YES I AM SPURS U FOOLS that ask!
Flippin went and said it didn't look good,
Thanks flippin for the info
Mr g

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I agree with Kieran.
You seem to jump on the first negative comment you can mr g.
It's very depressing reading some of your posts. I now don't read your posts, I check to see who has posted, then decide if I need to read it.
I just wish some of you would wait until 2nd sept before moaning about our lack of signings then fire away.
COYS

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Mr G
Some time ago, you asked how people would feel if there are no further changes in the squad this summer. I think my answer would be: ‘ disappointed, but not devastated’.

We have got used to seeing frantic transfer action nearly every season. Over the past five years we have brought in 36 new players and sold or released 50. In the previous five years it was even more manic: 54 in and 51 out. On average, we have brought in 9 new players and got rid of 10 each season. That is almost a complete new team every year. Whatever happened to stability?

Like most clubs, we cannot afford two world class players competing for every position and have to settle for a core of stars supported by good quality squad players. The stars capture all the headlines, but most of the transfer action is just circulating the squad players. It keeps Levy busy (and keeps us posting on this site), but probably has relatively little effect on the overall strength of the squad.

Our current squad has the right age mix. It has 13 players between 20 and 25, 8 between 26 and 29 and only 3 outfield players that have turned 30. Dempsey and Defoe are both 30 and Parker is 32. This squad has been good enough to finish 4th or 5th in each of the last four seasons and should be competitive again next season. I don’t see the need for another round of frenzied buying and selling.

It is easy for us to list all the players who are never going to be first choice in their positions and want them out of the club. But in most cases, if we replace them it will only be with more of the same. I see no point in that.

The main concern is whether our strikers will do enough, or score enough goals, to keep us in the Champions League race. If Adebayor can get back to something near his best, he can hold the fort for another year while we try to get something better, but if he plays like he did last season we will be in trouble. Similarly, Defoe is starting to pick up injuries and his form and fitness can no longer be relied on.

Unfortunately, the options for replacing them are reducing almost daily. Paying silly money for Damiao or Benteke is not the answer, but that only leaves one other possibility. We must find top quality just as it is about to emerge: another Berbatov.

It is time for our scouts to start earning their money
KM

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I can only imagine how the Man U and City fans feel after losing their opening friendly matches. has there been a spike in the suicide rate in Manchester?

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Coys 1 I dnt care and 2 u do read em because u keep replying
This page is all about fans options. We dnt have to agree with each other. But u souls like a levy lover so u can wait till the 2nd ill say what I like when I like just like every body else.
If the eds dnt want me to post a comment then I won't.
Can you tell me something to be positive about?? Noooo you can't.
Mr g

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Km, what scouts, the Sun and u tube?

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Erm, I think the positivity is standing up for the people running his club.
Surely that's plain to see. Instead of griping about them.
One thing is abundantly clear though, you really do love to moan.

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Davo

That hurt - but only because it is true

KM

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Mr g,
Something to cheer about, let's see.

1) New stadium on the horizon
2) Just spent a record transfer fee on Paulinho (does this not show intent?)
3) Record points total in the premier league last season

That's just 3 reasons for starters, I'm sure people could add to that!

Now is the time to be excited about the upcoming season, not be miserable about a 1-1 draw at Swindon. Your posts do nothing but bring people down - I'm not the only one who thinks so!
This time last season you were moaning about the appointment of Villas Boas, I seem to remember you saying we're going backwards - 100% wrong weren't you.
I remember having a pop at you and Davo about the negativity from you both, but at least Davo has some good points to make to balance out his occasional moan.
But you're moaning is incessant and unbearable, I won't be bothering replying or reading your posts anymore until I read something positive from you. We are a team that has progressed, we are a business that has progressed and the future is very very bright. Your failure to recognise this is disappointing and your negativity is really sad!
Kieran

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Well said Kieran absolutely spot on with every point.

Mr g, providing you are not a Gooner in disguise, you are part of the family which is THFC. So people getting on your back is for 1 reason alone and that's your negativity. Please consider your posts when writing them and hopefully we can enjoy reading your posts in the future.

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17 Jul 2013 14:55:25
with cavani now at PSG, what are the chances of a bid for lavezzi or gameiro, both are falling down the pecking order, can't see them happy at playing 3rd and 4th fiddle, and I imagin, better that benteke.

Now, there's just something about the benteke rumour that dosnt quite ring true, I just dosnt sound like a levi risk. and so touted about in the paper, could just be a smoke screen, but just my opinion, no sources or facts, just thoughts.

i don't want benteke at spurs, stropping next summer because he wants to go to man u, real madrid or somewhere else, he's got form doing it, levi please don't take the risk.

i have faith in levi, top 4, fingers crossed, awesome striker on the way, poss someone not even being mentioned, straight out of left feild, like VDV, but not on deadline day, not sure my blood pressure could take it!

COYS

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I don't want a stopping Benteke either, but then I didn't want a stroppy Ade either! let's face facts, the list of strikers is getting shorter, and if sh**ty can get a decent Spanish striker for £21 mill, we shouldn't even contemplate signing Bentenke for more than £15 mill! {Ed001's Note - what about Cisse from Newcastle? Forcing his way out to go somewhere in London apparently. Seems to be either Fulham or Spurs. Or is it just the stroppy thing that would bother you? Sorry, genuine question as everyone has different ideas. Personally I think a player that goes on strike is always going to be a risk.}

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Cisse is slightly different, isn't he in disagreement because of religious grounds, with the sponsership (wonga) and is willing to play but not with that plastered on his chest. but yes, i'd take him, he seems like a principled person, and would be cheaper than benteke. {Ed001's Note - no, there is no dispute over that, it is an excuse. Money lending is against his beliefs, correct, but there is no difference made for the interest rate it is loaned at. Virgin were money lenders, just as Wonga are, yet he wore their name plastered across his chest all last season. This isn't a principle, this is about forcing a move.}

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Ok edd1, point taken, what kinda fee do you think would be involved? cheaper than benteke means less risk! I don't think benteke is the answer, solado maybe? I don't know, just want somthing to happen before the season starts, although I do like deadline day, not good for blood pressure, but good entertainment when were involved. still I trust the hiarachy to do something good! {Ed001's Note - I don't know how much, I try not to get involved in that side because there are so many hidden costs that it is difficult to be sure exactly which figure to quote.}

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17 Jul 2013 12:50:43
what about a cheeky bid for mata? heard he isn't in jose's plans as he's willing to offer him as part of a swap deal for rooney. he's good a great attacking mindset and cn offer good competition for places!

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Be realistic mate, we would have more of a chance of getting rooney then mata (not that I think we have a chance of getting rooney)

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Bidding for Mata or Rooney would bring up the subject of Bale going in the other direction. so neither deal is very likely at all.

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17 Jul 2013 10:55:18
Hi this is my first post on here but I've been reading everything on here for a couple of years now!

I'm just wondering with Chelsea putting a bid in for Rooney would it not show a statement to everyone else if put a big bid in for him? To me we would recoupe most of his transfer through media and sponsorships and he would fit our style and be a big fish in our squad, something he isn't anymore at united. Imagine Bale and Rooney, it would be like the old Rooney ronaldo partnership!

SpursRob

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Hi Rob,

As much as I would like to see Rooney come to the Lane, unfortunately, until we have finished the new stadium, we're not going to be able to attract the likes of Rooney because of the salary. We can't afford £200k per week, we could probably do £140-150k but I know I wouldn't want to take a £75-100k per week pay cut especially when there is someone else willing to pay me that amount of money. Such is life at the moment.

Dom

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Levy has previous for this, pretend we are in for Aguero, Cavani, Llorente to excite us and then let the fax machine break down at the last minute.

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Why not try for mata he is clearly surplus to requirements at the chavs and we wanted him when in spain. he is bettr I feel than rooney.

Ant

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17 Jul 2013 01:14:28
'07 Jun 2013 22:08:05
Sacc Man here with some interesting news.
Expect David Villa to sign soon and then thank me.
We are also odds on to sign a certain Kenyan that plays for Celtic. Believe.
COYS!
Wiggiddy wiggidy WAC, you heard it from:
Da Sacc Man

Ok guys. It's the Sacc Man here so you know my word is good.
This deal is on. I swear. It all depends on convincing Mario that we got ambition then it's golden!'

WELL SACC MAN CLEARLY FAILED, he's GOT REALLY GOOD SOURCES

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There once was a man called the SACC,
Who always spoke a load of crap,
His rumours are nonsence,
Someone make him unconscious,
'cos we don't want the twerp back!

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Think you could list about 40 persons on the Manchester United page that have at one point or still are thinking bale is going to join that clown brigade

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But none of them actually came trie, despite all the players moving clubs just none to spurs

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